What is God?

Last Tuesday, Daily Pickings asked "Who rules over us?" to post a video exposing the duality of religion manipulated by Freemasonry. In the dialectic struggle between "good" and "evil", followers of religious dogma are misled into believing they are aspiring be "good" whereas in reality, they are manipulated within a structure which at the top is ruled with a very different purpose. Walter Veith is clearly talking in the belief that he is working for "good" (Christianity) to vanquish Luciferian "evil" but as in the Hegelian Dialectic he's fallen into the trap. This struggle predates Christ by millennia.

Our current work includes exploration of power structures in the context of astrotheology; Natural Inclusion expands our understanding of the nature of everything in the universe, including humans. This leads us to consider the proposition that God is within us all, as are "good" and "evil".

"But God really loves you!"

Posted previously Daily Pickings; who's riding in your carriage?

* update from Pennie: "God Is The Psyche Of The Universe" (and resides within us all)

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0 #10 Clive Menzies 2017-03-11 18:22
Quoting James Walter:
When did you decide to become a priest?

:-) God forbid!

No, this is related to our connections with nature and each other, long before civilisations created hierarchy to corrupt religion. I don't know the answers but I have questions.

It would seem there is way more beyond what can be measured or explained by abstract rationality.

It is not an issue raised to create division but to find common ground.
 
 
0 #9 James Walter 2017-03-11 18:06
Quoting Clive Menzies :
Quoting James Walter:
Explain the universe? With innuendo and fairy tales?

This may be more to your taste but the problem is this is a concept which is felt/experienced and difficult to express in words.
http://freecriticalthinking.org/images/Documents/DailyPickings/Bombshellspdf.pdf


One's brain produced feelings to go along with the thoughts, the beliefs a person really believes strongly. We want our lives to have "meaning", to survive past death. The fear of death, of nothingness, pervades many. So we grasp at, make up fables and gods. We do not want to be virtually nothing. Our genetic makeup has been created by natural selection, by what works. When did you decide to become a priest?
 
 
0 #8 Clive Menzies 2017-03-11 17:45
Quoting James Walter:
Explain the universe? With innuendo and fairy tales?

This may be more to your taste but the problem is this is a concept which is felt/experience d and difficult to express in words.
http://freecriticalthinking.org/images/Documents/DailyPickings/Bombshellspdf.pdf
 
 
0 #7 James Walter 2017-03-11 17:36
Quoting Clive Menzies :
Quoting James Walter:
I am not an agnostic. I know that there is no benevolent god that watches over us or even gives a fig. History proves that entirely false.
Hi Jimmy, I don't think you've watched the whole of the first video - that's precisely the point - there is no God as described in the Bible but these are stories to try to explain the universe.
As Pennie responded yesterday "God Is The Psyche Of The Universe" - we are part of the universe and consequently part of God is the proposition. Today's Daily Pickings provides a different perspective. I shouldn't get too hung up on the word "God".


Explain the universe? With innuendo and fairy tales?
Humpty Dumpty
"There’s glory for you!’

`I don’t know what you mean by “glory,”‘ Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don’t — till I tell you. I meant “there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!”‘

`But “glory” doesn’t mean “a nice knock-down argument,”‘ Alice objected.

`When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

`The question is,’ said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
 
 
0 #6 Clive Menzies 2017-03-11 16:09
Quoting James Walter:


Then why use the term God?


Because billions of people are divided by belief in different versions of God.

Once more humans understand that all versions of God are myths and stories related to the same concept, we're on the road to a better world.

God is energy in receptive space as is everything else in the universe, as are we.

If we talk about God, people can relate this accumulated wisdom to their own version of God .... or try to because some versions are in contradiction to reality. In which case they have to reconcile themselves and their world view to reality - realise that they've climbed the wrong mountain - hard but essential.
 
 
0 #5 James Walter 2017-03-11 15:50
Quoting Clive Menzies :
Quoting James Walter:
I am not an agnostic. I know that there is no benevolent god that watches over us or even gives a fig. History proves that entirely false.
Hi Jimmy, I don't think you've watched the whole of the first video - that's precisely the point - there is no God as described in the Bible but these are stories to try to explain the universe.
As Pennie responded yesterday "God Is The Psyche Of The Universe" - we are part of the universe and consequently part of God is the proposition. Today's Daily Pickings provides a different perspective. I shouldn't get too hung up on the word "God".


Then why use the term God? The universe has not psyche. It is simply cause and effect, infinitely times over
 
 
0 #4 Clive Menzies 2017-03-11 12:20
Quoting James Walter:
I am not an agnostic. I know that there is no benevolent god that watches over us or even gives a fig. History proves that entirely false.
Hi Jimmy, I don't think you've watched the whole of the first video - that's precisely the point - there is no God as described in the Bible but these are stories to try to explain the universe.
As Pennie responded yesterday "God Is The Psyche Of The Universe" - we are part of the universe and consequently part of God is the proposition. Today's Daily Pickings provides a different perspective. I shouldn't get too hung up on the word "God".
 
 
0 #3 James Walter 2017-03-11 08:09
Quoting Clive Menzies :
Quoting James Walter:
So help me out here. What is your point?
Hi Jimmy, the first video shows parallels between passages in the Bible and medical terms from a medical dictionary.

The proposition is that we are the source of God (in each and everyone of us) ie. God is not an external third party determining good and evil.

The last one is not specifically related to God but refers to what ideological "master" do you serve?

This is not a definitive posting but more to open our eyes to possibilities.

Certainty is the province of "believers" be they devotees to a particular religion or atheists - to be agnostic is not to be certain of anything but open to learning new possibilities.


An agnostic? If the universe needs a creator, why does the creator not need a creator? If the creator does not need a creator, why does the universe? I am certain that water consists of 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. I am not an agnostic about it. I am not a "believer" in it. I can not even imagine an alternative explanation. I am a scientist. Complicated science, such as cosmology, has room for more proof and discoveries. In deed, there are many areas of science, such as man made global warming, where skepticism, agnostic, is deserved. I am open to new data on these.
But as to God or gods, there is absolutely no proof of any sort. The bible is fable based on earlier religions. The writers, whenever they did write it, stole from other religions. I am not an agnostic. I know that there is no benevolent god that watches over us or even gives a fig. History proves that entirely false.
 
 
0 #2 Clive Menzies 2017-03-10 21:24
Quoting James Walter:
So help me out here. What is your point?
Hi Jimmy, the first video shows parallels between passages in the Bible and medical terms from a medical dictionary.

The proposition is that we are the source of God (in each and everyone of us) ie. God is not an external third party determining good and evil.

The last one is not specifically related to God but refers to what ideological "master" do you serve?

This is not a definitive posting but more to open our eyes to possibilities.

Certainty is the province of "believers" be they devotees to a particular religion or atheists - to be agnostic is not to be certain of anything but open to learning new possibilities.
 
 
0 #1 James Walter 2017-03-10 20:20
Except Carlin, I am not following this at all. The first video? Are you supporting that? I could not watch it or the last one. "Praise the lord..." Why would I praise something that does not exist? The big bang is bs. The universe is infinite in time and extent, outwards and inwards. The Universe has always been and will always be, an endless chain of cause and effect, down to our thoughts - there is no free will at all - just the illusion. We are all actors in a play written by no one, not knowing the lines or the next act, but inexorably flowing to its end. The existence of the universe is unexplainable. In- (not) -finite (with boundaries). We are just parts (finite) of that infinite universe, whose parts will be recycled into new parts, like dying suns into new ones. Remember that entropy applies only to closed systems. There is no "good" or "evil". There is only that which helps us as an individual, but more importantly, as a species survive. We have learned that it is noble to sacrifice ourselves for the greater good and evil to take that which we did not earn or which hurts the individual or the race.

So help me out here. What is your point?
 

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