Review session on 11th November 2014

Please note the weekly sessions for 2014 have finished but we will meet on Tuesday 9th December to finalise plans for next year's sessions

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. Round up of news and events (30 minutes)

2. Corruption (30 minutes)

3. Critical Thinking and Occupy (30 minutes)

4. Thoughts/plans for 2015 (30 minutes)

Session 40 on Tuesday 7th October 2014 - notes

* Note this is the last weekly session for this year but there will be two review sessions (see below)

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. General discussion - current news in context (30 mins)

2. Upcoming events -  (30 mins)

TTIP - pan-Europe day of action http://www.nottip.org.uk/nationaldayofaction/

Putney Debates http://thenewputneydebates.wordpress.com/programme/

2015 Constitutionalists UK http://www.2015constitutionalists.uk/

3. Progress review (30 mins)

New Model Charter

Political Economy - Systems Thinking

Governance - structures

Legality of wars

4. Next year (30 mins)

Proposed monthly review dates:

Tuesday 11th November 2014

Tuesday 9th December 2014

Weekly sessions restart on Tuesday 6th January 2015


Session 40 on Tuesday 7th October 2014 – notes


1. Seema Malhotra Labour MP voted with the government on bombing Iraq - claimed to be the wishes of her constituency. Corruption: Cost of Portcullis House - £750,000 per MP's office. Internal trees, £150,000 pa 5year contract. Garden centre quoted 8 X £1,000, one off cost. Better than HoC as venue for meetings. Lobbying activity. Lack of access to MPs - insulated form those they serve - panoply of security. Parliament won't accept letters outside certain hours. Corruption report, revolving door between companies and government and regulators. US financial regulators under control of banks, GMO regulation controlled by Monsanto. LibDem conference – Vince Cable talked about land tax. Party has links with Henry George Institute. LibDem Minister responsible for introducing water charges – admits it's now a mess. Bringing corruption report to date. What to do with it? Possible traction in the election – candidates to sign up to anti-corruption? People will engage on corruption. Cumulative account of corruption cases and associate named individuals with it to make them toxic. Associate deaths with individuals. January to list MPs achievements and consequences. Money corruption – war consequences. Persons in public office agrees to do things which are against the law. Elected on the basis of lies. More corruption overseas than here? "I don't want these people to represent me." - 2015 Constitutionalists UK?
2. Upcoming events: TTIP day of action (pan-Europe) 11th October 2014. Putney Debates coming together. 2015 Constitutionalists UK (2CU) – House of Windsor, permanent role/privilege? Structure for permanent living constitutional convention?
3. Progress review – Banking and finance valued most – in the context of collapse. Awareness of problems. Contradictions within the system -  Food important – needs to continue. Climate – more difficult – part of the corruption. Energy and environment. Climate too complex for many. Improved critical thinking skills. Achieved a lot education. Analysing the economy. Food, GM. Developed links with other groups. Janos challenging our thinking. Never fallen out – differences of opinion – but remain cohesive as a group. Proof of group working feasibility. Critical thinking. Psychology needs more emphasis (individual) - we've looked at mass manipulation but not the individual. Systems thinking has been very useful. Needs to developed. Website – big presence on the web. We've learned a lot. Climate – improved knowledge - built on previous common sense judgement since joining the group. Nothing is a no-go area of exploration. Summarised everything in the Political Economy - Systems Thinking map. Recent war and law exploration and action. The major lever is corruption. Election promises reneged on. Scottish referendum is a prime example – "Yes" momentum undermined by lies from the establishment. Encapsulates the corruption and lying. Need to be exposing truth– can't spend to much time analysing. Once the sh*t hits the fan, chaos will ensue – the truth needs to be out there. The New Model Charter – step up outreach/education. Global warming is polarising. Concentrate on the important – telling the truth is a revolutionary act. Viable alternatives are dismissed or suppressed. Disseminating more information. Keep focused on a few things – people are beginning to take notice. We're in the middle of the web which is messing up the whole world. Relative truth is not valid. Moral relativity – negativity- seeks to undermine perception of what is. MoD know what's going to happen - planned and executed it. They're behind the indoctrination. Key to our success to date is the flat structure for collaboration – not funded – not hierarchical – changes and adapts – self-organising group. Current representative political system doesn't work. Proved that an alternative works. Achieved much - extremely efficient. In the absence of what we've done, there will be no working model. No compulsion to do what we do but we've continuted. Daily  Pickings effective tool. Biggest thing out there about this group. A good feel to the group. Participation/cooperative. Journey – better understand information and look at it critically. Discerning truth from untruth. Removing unneccesary complexity. But it's more worrying the more you learn. The level of misinformation revealed is mind-boggling. Systems thinking is key to understanding the world. Cooperative, participatory model has produced an infinite multiple of what could be achieved individually in terms of both collective and individual understanding in such a short time. New Model Charter and the Political Economy - Systems Thinking model are the major achievements. Need to expand the co-operative/collaborative model locally and globally.
4. Next year – Action needs to be targeted – education. What to say and where to say it. Give people the means to find the truth for themselves. Strong language can alienate. Interpret what we've achieved through collaboration. Give a man a fish rather than give him a kipper. Why criminal? Illustrative – need to explain. War crimes – give up the criminal purpose and commit not to repeat it. Sun Tzu's The Art of War: "Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across".They need to figure out their golden bridge. Food, corruption, wars. Identifying the pillars. Media.  Charity one of the pillars. Payment of tax with no accountability. Tax diversion to bring the system down. Structures of governance. Land fundamental source of wealth. Governance – ruling. Expand the domain. Governance – mask – need better understanding. Computer games as a medium for expanding cooperation and understanding Angry birds popularity. Simple games. Warcraft – opensource, possible basis for demonstrating the power of cooperation to solve world problems.

Priorities for next year:

Expanding and improving the collaborative model - using a range of tools

Corruption

War

Food (Michael Pollan "eat real food, not too much, mainly plants")

Research on book making. Greece resistance to books when philosophy was "alive". Dialogue makes us alive but books come with massive weight - useful for reference but too much reliance on books. Flexible - plenty of tools available to translate verbiage into a meaningful book.

Session 39 on Tuesday 30th September 2014 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. General discussion - current news in context (30 mins)

Will Russia lead development of alternative economic structures?

TTIP -  25th October conference

2. Vote for bombing Iraq (and Syria) - holding those who voted in favour accountable - Chris (50 mins)

3. Private v public debt - which is the bigger problem? (20 mins)

4. Next week and where from here? (20 mins)

Putney Debates
2015 Constitutionalists Charter

Session 39 on Tuesday 30th September 2014 – notes

  1. Peter Drew – (GlobalResearch) response to Cameron. TTIP – in the US opposition is building. Euronews. Occupy spokesman? Structures. ISIS – what the left will offer. Need to deconstruct the ideology. Wars have nothing to do with ISIS. Climate change - CO2 is not pollution. Depacking ideology different context in different circumstances. Implanted beheading in psyche, one individual – extrapolated across – list of 80 proscribed organisation. Galloway speech on Iraq bombing vote. Massive organisation – ISIS funded by DifD (£98m last year).

  2. Independent Legal Action against War – 2003 -Mansfield, Kennedy (human rights lawyers), nobody has studied the law of war, other than in foreign office. You can't make money from war law. Sir Geoffrey Nice. Intl tribunal on Yugoslavia. Legal secretary? Law – finding legal backing for Make wars history has been very difficult. Appeal to barristers / solicitors experience of FCO – Elizabeth Wilmshurst resigned from the foreign office over the illegal (2nd) war in in Iraq. It is for the CPS to determine whether there is a case to to prosecute against MPs who voted to bomb Iraq yet again.
    Writing to the Strasbourg? Barriers? European Court of Human Rights. ICC – Rome Statute. Act of Parliament. Put out information and solicit legal advice? Inform authorities of breeches. Support the 42 MPs who voted against. Voting in line with the party? Whips power. Examination of the political system – working on structures and political systems. Current systems. Divide task into 2 parts. Structural things we can do – pick up some of we can change the world by changing the rules. Report them to the police and notify them of the fact. 524 – you've spotted a crime and you need to report it. If an individual reports it, it can be ignored. Need the basis of evidence available for people to report on a wide scale. Decide whether you'll report your MP. Press conference with John McDonnell – make it public. Need numbers? Action plan – organising a meeting with 42 MPs. How to implement the various ideas. Need a topic for the meeting with 42 MPs. Need an All Party Parliamentary Group. Who we are, what we're doing and why we are contacting them. Need an organisation with resources. Fund raising – Rowntree Trust? 1. Draft letter to "No" MPs. 2. Pro forma report for individuals with text to report their MPs. John and Caroline – 2004? APPG. Computer tools – gaming industry – wisdom layer. How many others will report MPs? Common wisdom more powerful than the individual. Current pyramid structures take bad decisions – Nick Maxwell on wisdom. Peace moves. Voices in the wilderness. Introduce a game – false flag issue? Re-enact false flags – steps of the process. Complex – people make mistakes. Predict the next action. Need a model. Watch the analysis of the beheading - lacks credibility. Hairless leg – mannequin.

Next week – last meeting – one in Nov and One in Dec.

UKIP – Nigel Farage – not beholden to party line. Against bombing but against in MoD cuts.

Session 38 on Tuesday 23rd September 2014 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. General discussion - current news in context (30 mins)

Climate march - correspondence

TTIP - David Burrowes MP meeting 25th October conference

2. Re-investigate 9/11 conference (40 mins)

3. Minsky (modelling money) - Steve Keen meeting (30 mins)

4. Next week and where from here? (20 mins)

Putney Debates

2015 Constitutionalists Charter

Session 38 on Tuesday 23rd September 2014 – notes

1. Syria – MPs – illegality of bombing Syria. Difd aid to Syria (ISIS £98.6m) – longer version of the document. Report on 9/11 – German families suing Ukrainian government - negligent. Rockefeller foundation shedding fossil fuel interests but the foundation only represents part of their wealth - are they retaining interests via other means (trusts, nominee companies and their banking interests - empty gesture politics - impressed Caroline Lucas. Climate march v Syria bombing distraction. Vote rigging - Scottish referendum possible but evidence beyond the video and photo yet to emerge. Corruption is the lifeblood of the establishment. Report in 1998 – Professor in Liverpool Conference on Corruption – new definition to replace UN inadequate - initiative ceased. Transparency international now subverted. People hate corruption. Campaign on corruption? Set of principles for MPs to sign up to? World Bank blacklist of companies – 26 are British. Foreign corrupt practices Act in the US. GEC - Marconi. George Simpson and John Mayo destroyed Arnolod Weinstock's company through reckless fraud - former made a Lord. 14 types of corruption. Cut off the blood supply to the RC.

2. Using the system to bring down the system. R v. Gul Supreme Court ruled that the government was guilty of funding terrorism. Terrorism Act 2000 Section 19. obligation to report offences. Paying tax is a crime. Report to the police that people are paying tax – Tony Blair, David Cameron etc. Information sheet for police. Law says, Supreme Court ruling. Systems lever – to end war and direct democracy – stop paying tax until a court says – wars ended, troops home, left NATO,  prosecuted war criminals, uphold UN declaration on principles  of international law 1970. Letter – reporting definitive list – names of UK politicians. Iraqi debate – Jack Straw – accountable for our decisions. Innocent Iraqi civilians will be killed – proof of genocide – vote with the government. Malaysian war crimes tribunal. Rome statute criminal code. Custom, international law (Malaysia). Bush and Blair. Prosecute Blair for genocide. Bush could be prosecuted under American law. Leader of NATO Anders Fogh Rassmassen – ICC - Denmark. Sarkozy? 26 of 28 European countries signed up to ICC. Stop tax at source. Affect everything. Make it easy for tax payers to stop paying tax. Paid into a trust account until the conditions are met. Enable every citizen to decide where their money is spent. £11,500 per taxpayer into coffers. Health, transport etc. divide by 100 units. To determine the budget for the year. Fill in form to determine. Will people engage with this process? Their power is to decide how the money is spent. Just fund what you want to support. Participation. Working groups set up to discuss. Permanent ministry of defence for 200 years. Control of our money. 60 million to agree where the money will be sent. How should the system work? Vote to delegate authority to spend money – who takes decisions. Tax diversion to lawful purposes. Political system is wrong. Create a political system which works lawfully for the benefit of the people. Legalise the process of people deciding. Funding terrorism is a crime. We need in law means to decide where money is spent. Legal trust to hold the money – can only paid out for lawful purposes. Learn – the establishment will fight back and fight dirty. Appealing to patriotic fervour. Intervening in the tax system, holding leaders to account, direct democratic system. Systemic problem from empowering individuals. Fix political system and operational model – voting with taxes determined by individuals. Argument and counter arguments. Scottish recount built in prohibition. We need to anticipate the obstacles. Stop the money flow. Road map progress to end war and move us towards democracy. Template document to report to police. Local council – tax. Local councillors reported to the police. Syria vote Friday – Priority 1. Holding individuals to account Priority 2. Priority 3 determining where taxes are spent. Template letters. Councillors, MPs and Police. Taxpayers union.co.uk – Briefing note for MPs – law in relation to bombing of Syria. Contact – priority Who voted for war? Named individuals – 650 briefs and deliver them Alex names and briefs. List of MPs. John Adams St. List of names. Parliamentary press office – Sam Walton – Lindsay German.