Session 39 on Tuesday 30th September 2014

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. General discussion - current news in context (30 mins)

Will Russia lead development of alternative economic structures?

TTIP -  25th October conference

2. Vote for bombing Iraq (and Syria) - holding those who voted in favour accountable - Chris (50 mins)

3. Private v public debt - which is the bigger problem? (20 mins)

4. Next week and where from here? (20 mins)

Putney Debates
2015 Constitutionalists Charter

Session 38 on Tuesday 23rd September 2014 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. General discussion - current news in context (30 mins)

Climate march - correspondence

TTIP - David Burrowes MP meeting 25th October conference

2. Re-investigate 9/11 conference (40 mins)

3. Minsky (modelling money) - Steve Keen meeting (30 mins)

4. Next week and where from here? (20 mins)

Putney Debates

2015 Constitutionalists Charter

Session 38 on Tuesday 23rd September 2014 – notes

1. Syria – MPs – illegality of bombing Syria. Difd aid to Syria (ISIS £98.6m) – longer version of the document. Report on 9/11 – German families suing Ukrainian government - negligent. Rockefeller foundation shedding fossil fuel interests but the foundation only represents part of their wealth - are they retaining interests via other means (trusts, nominee companies and their banking interests - empty gesture politics - impressed Caroline Lucas. Climate march v Syria bombing distraction. Vote rigging - Scottish referendum possible but evidence beyond the video and photo yet to emerge. Corruption is the lifeblood of the establishment. Report in 1998 – Professor in Liverpool Conference on Corruption – new definition to replace UN inadequate - initiative ceased. Transparency international now subverted. People hate corruption. Campaign on corruption? Set of principles for MPs to sign up to? World Bank blacklist of companies – 26 are British. Foreign corrupt practices Act in the US. GEC - Marconi. George Simpson and John Mayo destroyed Arnolod Weinstock's company through reckless fraud - former made a Lord. 14 types of corruption. Cut off the blood supply to the CRC.

2. Using the system to bring down the system. R v. Gul Supreme Court ruled that the government was guilty of funding terrorism. Terrorism Act 2000 Section 19. obligation to report offences. Paying tax is a crime. Report to the police that people are paying tax – Tony Blair, David Cameron etc. Information sheet for police. Law says, Supreme Court ruling. Systems lever – to end war and direct democracy – stop paying tax until a court says – wars ended, troops home, left NATO,  prosecuted war criminals, uphold UN declaration on principles  of international law 1970. Letter – reporting definitive list – names of UK politicians. Iraqi debate – Jack Straw – accountable for our decisions. Innocent Iraqi civilians will be killed – proof of genocide – vote with the government. Malaysian war crimes tribunal. Rome statute criminal code. Custom, international law (Malaysia). Bush and Blair. Prosecute Blair for genocide. Bush could be prosecuted under American law. Leader of NATO Anders Fogh Rassmassen – ICC - Denmark. Sarkozy? 26 of 28 European countries signed up to ICC. Stop tax at source. Affect everything. Make it easy for tax payers to stop paying tax. Paid into a trust account until the conditions are met. Enable every citizen to decide where their money is spent. £11,500 per taxpayer into coffers. Health, transport etc. divide by 100 units. To determine the budget for the year. Fill in form to determine. Will people engage with this process? Their power is to decide how the money is spent. Just fund what you want to support. Participation. Working groups set up to discuss. Permanent ministry of defence for 200 years. Control of our money. 60 million to agree where the money will be sent. How should the system work? Vote to delegate authority to spend money – who takes decisions. Tax diversion to lawful purposes. Political system is wrong. Create a political system which works lawfully for the benefit of the people. Legalise the process of people deciding. Funding terrorism is a crime. We need in law means to decide where money is spent. Legal trust to hold the money – can only paid out for lawful purposes. Learn – the establishment will fight back and fight dirty. Appealing to patriotic fervour. Intervening in the tax system, holding leaders to account, direct democratic system. Systemic problem from empowering individuals. Fix political system and operational model – voting with taxes determined by individuals. Argument and counter arguments. Scottish recount built in prohibition. We need to anticipate the obstacles. Stop the money flow. Road map progress to end war and move us towards democracy. Template document to report to police. Local council – tax. Local councillors reported to the police. Syria vote Friday – Priority 1. Holding individuals to account Priority 2. Priority 3 determining where taxes are spent. Template letters. Councillors, MPs and Police. Taxpayers union.co.uk – Briefing note for MPs – law in relation to bombing of Syria. Contact – priority Who voted for war? Named individuals – 650 briefs and deliver them Alex names and briefs. List of MPs. John Adams St. List of names. Parliamentary press office – Sam Walton – Lindsay German. 

Session 37 on Tuesday 16th September 2014

Note - there is no session at Friends House this week (normal service will resume next week). Instead we are meeting at the Re-investigate 9/11 conference:

6pm to 10pm on Tuesday 16th September 2014
Conway Hall, Red Lion Square, London WC1 4RL
Tickets £7 or £5 for concessions

Critical Thinking will be putting 9/11 into context of the Political Economy.

All wars are the consequence of the the Political Economy.

Session 36 on Tuesday 9th September 2014 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

Venue: Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road NW1 2BJ - on the ground floor in the corridor outside the cafe

Agenda

1. General discussion - current news in context (30 mins)

CETA - TTIP

2. Peter Neathey - wrote Seven Seconds (9/11) (40 mins)

3. Thwink  - leverage points - sense of corruption - holding power to account  – Janos (25 mins)

4. Samoa - Margaret Meade continued– Arvind. . (25 mins)

Session 36 on Tuesday 9th September 2014 – notes

1. Seven Seconds – combined video and actors speaking different parts of the story as known journalists. Used real footage and statements. Coors' male singer alienated and solo career ended because of statements on 9/11. Governance discussion due. Electing independents in Skininggrove. Scottish independence – divorce is going to expose the weakness of UK economy. Grass roots activism: Creating moments of whirlwind. Came to US 12 years – paperless people. Grandmother dying – couldn't visit without papers. Brother couldn't go to China for a scholarship he won. Trying to push Obama to grant papers for early arrivers. Persistence to keep pestering their senators and congressmen. Structured protest (unions etc.) Momentum protest (MLK, Ghandi). Arvind notes to follow. Now focusing on disadvantaged to help them to be activists. Constitutionalists 2015 – appeal of independents (but more lost in the last election). Election next year attract independents to stand on Constitutionalists 2015 Charter. Each person stands on the their resources (£500 deposit, 2 seconders and 10 supporters). Not much time. Whatever we do, we'll be learning in the process. PR campaign to show the impotence of the existing parties. Ray Sheath's – open the debate for everyone to participate. Five paras – on how to do it. Standing for yourself. Talking about structures. You're fed up with the system, do something about. Iceland – using internet to get everyone to contribute to writing the constitution. Not a one day operation – it is a continuous process. No constitution should be set in stone. To have something beside your self living consitution. Party without structure/organisation.Need ministers to interact with other nations – speakers rather than leaders. Waste of energy to keep doing charity rather than effecting change. Charity scam? Act like any other company. Anyone can set up a charity – the first chunk of money is legitmate to use the money to live on. Concept of charity is false. Illusion of giving to charity relieves one of responsibility. Bottom - village run for handicapped people with live in helpers. Legislation changed – need to accept minimum wage and concessionary accommodation. Different type of charity emerging – community garden. Charity module?
2. Thwink – modelling and systems design requires proper analysis. Define the problem correctly to ensure accuracy of the model. Common sense is a good place to start. Power structures. Tom Paine – extract from Common Sense. Society and Government – very different – common interest of people v. necessary evil. Three stages of settlement. Simple convenient tree for shelter; increasing size – some assigned to make decisions. Representative government. Good government = happy people. Frequent election, to hold representatives to account. It is the reps rather than the figurehead which assures good government. The simpler something is the more ordered and less disordered. English constitution is complex. Two ancient tyrannies – Monarchy (“eminent domain”); the people; Union of three powers; commons checking on the King – the people's budget to introduce the people's budget in 1909 – gutted by the House of Lords. Peers for the King v Commons for the people – feuding between the two parties. Under threat – crown relies on Eminent domain to reassert its authority. Two parliamentary people produce a new constitution. Model how to achieve a phantom party and constitution. Have the knowledge to remodel the  system. Resonance – collective more powerful than the individuals. Knowledge – Will – Strategy. Land, interest – strategy to achieve this. Not two is peace – Adi Da. Prior unity – by nature mankind is a unity – we just need to discover it. Give up our tribal habit – not realising that we are one family. Tribal solution of social cohesion cannot work. Something new must emerge. Cause of inhumanity – fear and insecurity. NHS Jarrow march – holding up traffic provoked lots of anger from drivers held up.
3. Samoa – two main islands and some smaller islands. Transition from fighting to cooperation through kinship and intermarriage. Fa'asamoa (the Samoan way). Traditional way of living was embedded in the Constitution. New Zealand had responsibility. 360 villages 188,000 pop. Customary laws remain in force until repealed or amended. Family extends beyond blood ties. Teenage pregnancy – looking at other societies. Extended families are broad but close-knit. Selling your land will make your death come early.