Session 18 on *Tuesday 2nd May 2017 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

*New Venue: St John's Church, (Second blue door to the left – ring bell if not open)

73 Waterloo Rd, Lambeth, London SE1 8TY (near IMAX tower cinema)

Agenda

7:00 Round up of news and events

7:30 Binary Economics – distributed ownership of income-earning capital.

8:00 Dividend vs. interest – Solution to “making money with money”?

8:30 Economic Democracy-- Living Income For Everyone (LIFE)

8:50 “We are the power of the political economy” – Effective rebellion/Withdrawing consent ? How/by whom?

The EVENT (see below). Is this how others will change the world responding to information collected and disseminated?

Basic Practical Steps To Prepare For The Event (.pdf document)

Session 18 on 2nd May 2017 - notes* Caveat - these notes are not minutes but more brief, sporadic notes of some of what was mentioned in the meeting. They are more an "aide memoire" for those attending the meeting than a fair representation of what was said.

1. Twitter – Brian Giresh – none of the above. Nafeez Ahmed – deep state. Complicated to confuse. Francis Bacon – go quite deep. Truths and communicate. Collective creation of the Agenda.

2. Money from money = dividends can be just as exploitative. Kelso – Mortimer Adler – Capitalist Manifesto – working directly/income generating assets. Share owners being defrauded under the current law. Net profit to be distributed as dividends. Retaining profits to by out individual shareholders. Corporate law doesn't oblige company to distribute profits. Workers to become shareholders in the company to start receiving dividends. Shareholders defrauded over time. Every workier building up savings to buy shares. Kate Raworth – Doughnut Economics. Kaiser Report – new start ups. $400 orange juice maker. Global Research – usury. Inflation – was the way to reduce government debt.

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Session 17 on *Tuesday 25th April 2017 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

*New Venue: St John's Church,73 Waterloo Rd, Lambeth, London SE1 8TY (near IMAX tower cinema)

Agenda

1. Round up of news and events (30 minutes)

2. “Take legal action”? But “the law is corrupt”!
See  the 11 page essay by Charles Bruce by Petetheshovel Earthling

3. Effective rebellion when unlawful laws proliferate

4. More on Civitus?

5. “Countries get into debt”... or corrupt governments take the people into debt?

6. “Creating ideology” to justify the unjustifiable. Ideas and ideals into ideology by “the intelligentsia” who serves whoever is in power.

From daily pickings: Golden Elevator (http://freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/2096-golden-elevator)
“In as much as we are the power of the political economy (http://freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/1938-escaping-the-lie-we-live ) which oppresses us, we all need a golden bridge or road to safety. We need a golden bridge for humanity to take that first step to withdraw consent. A bridge to entice us to reject the lies (http://freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/1840-managing-the-public-mind ). We can then take the high speed golden elevator (http://freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/2081-harnessing-our-power ) to the next evolutionary level for humans, global collective intelligence (http://freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/2080-collective-intelligence )”.

 

Session 17 25th April 2017 - notes

* Caveat - these notes are not minutes but more brief sporadic notes of some of what was mentioned in the meeting. They are more an "aide memoire" for those attending the meeting than a fair representation of what was said.

** We didn't record the meeting but the technology failed us on this occasion - we will try post recordings of future sessions but it won't always be possible

1. Nafeez Ahmed – deciphering Trump. One faction of the deep state is fighting another? Differing layers of reality – abstract art. Next week. UK Column – what's going on with Brexit. David Scott – Northern Exposure. David Ellis – Strategic defence initiatives.. military union by stealth. EU joint defence force to undermine nation states. Employment policy. Policeman under threat of eviction – Pete's post last week. Franchise. Rubbish collection in Campden – fortnightly. Private company offering to empty bins more often.

2. Ancient Babylonian codes – Shetar → Star Chamber. Can use the Shetar to obtain lien How Jewish law became English law – Georgetown Law Journal – Judith Shapiro. Charles Bruce Stewart – terminology of magic/wordplay. Symbology helps understanding – terminology of the sea. Pictures help undestanding. What is going on? Plunder obscured by politics. Within our nature to avoid pain and work can be seen as painful. Might is Right, controlled by law. Debt for equity – countries that cannot repay give up their natural resources. Jewish problem morphed into nations using the merchant code. Law is to uphold fairness. Almost a naivete to believe that law works that way. Legal codes replacing law. Ciphers and codes. John Dee espionage for Elizabethan times.

3. Effective rebellion. We are the power of the political economy. False consciousness is why dictatorships survive. Where does their power come from. Illusion that armies and police are their power because they are people too. Can we create a new world in spite of the system. History – many experiments which have either failed or been crushed. Unless one emulates Amish or secluded communities. Once they threaten the main system, they are attacked. Job and spending money defines of who we are. Single issue – money effects of everyone. Bills of exchange – credit scam of paper instruments. Beyond money creation but money iis what everyome relies. Food – grown in the Caribean. Replacing money without all the penalties – without the pressures and stress. Citizens dividend? Allows money making money with money. 3 Iroquoi chiefs war chief, shaman and secular chief for normal living. Women didn't vote but chose the candidates. Astrological charts. Mutual trust between the sexes and the people. Money is a medium – lots of different mediums. Money – around for the last 5,000. Money is used to communicate.

Doughnut economics - for review

Session 16 on *Tuesday 18th April 2017 - notes

 

Time: 7pm to 9pm

*New Venue: St John's Church,73 Waterloo Rd, Lambeth, London SE1 8TY (near IMAX tower cinema)

Agenda

7:00 Round up of news and events (30 minutes)

7:30 Using the system to change the system.
Is speaking truth to power a waste of time? Why did we bother vith the videos?.
Example Rule of Law party. Gillian Swanson to Lord Chancellor.
Holding liars to their pledges...(honesty, incorruptibility; yet child abuse not investigated) - don't bother?.
Food [is controlled by the system].

7:50 How you change system.
Examples Betamax, VHS de facto standard used. Telephone.

8:00 From last week: Supermarkets - how they operate - effective disengagement – will enough people really ever do such a thing?

8:30 From last week: Deep history – where servitude springs: Astrotheology Cycles (c. 2,100 years) within cycles (c. 25,200 years)

Proposition: Our real problem is not with some group: A badly designed system forces – or, at least, tempts people – to “buy in”or remain disadvantaged.

Interest or dividend? Underlying both is the desire to make money with money – “I have the money you do the work”.

Yet money – as a thing exchangeable for something valuable – is nothing but the shadow of wealth2

See Social Credit and Binary Economics.

A population must have, in aggregate, enough money (liquidity) to buy up all it has produced in a previous economic period.

Session 16 18th April 2017 - notes

1. Make war history – Take legal, economic action. Refusing to pay tax. Council Tax, Income, VAT – all 32 taxes supporting terrorism – in contravention of Terrorism Act 2000. Refuse to pay VAT; no betting tax. Criminal offense to demand, collect and pay it. Makewarshistory.co.uk.

Tony Rooke v BBC lied.

2. Using the system to change the system. Treaty of Paris 1783 – US/British peace. Queen subservient to City of London – Bank of England. ICC – 6 crimes, war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide – ancilliary to. Everything is connected. Financial system underpins and controls everything. Effective rebellion – tax resistance. Forcing governments to change. Newspeak – war is peace. Provision of the means as bad as committing the offence. Lawful tax rebellion. Fear of withholding tax. Taxation trusts. The trust acts on behelf of those withholding the tax. Can parliament repeal the laws which have resulted in criminality – yes we can but it cannot be retrospective. All wars illegal since Afghaniistan in 2001. Joint action. Structures – representative – target structures not the individual. Educate the individuals to change the structure. Structure determines behaviour. Target individuals within councils. Picking off the easy targets. Ken Livingstone marched against the tide – find others. Need to change ourselves. Can't pay, won't pay in Italy. Majority don't know what's going on. Educating. Review modes of consumption. Control of means of production. Tax revolt to gain leverage. Winning people's hearts. The structure works on individuals. Break out one council. Individuals to break the structure. Strategy for creating critical mass – need single issue. Money system – affects most people as a single issue. Bills of exchange and promissory notes – our consent. Not everyone could be nobles and noone wanted to be poor. Civitus was the solution – giving up much to be part of the system. Finding the start point. Military and police – order following. Issuing debt/interest free money. This using the system is part of something bigger. People in Parliament – is the problem. Exclusions of things – fighting corrupt system with non-corrupt ideas. Technology as a solution. Decentralised ledgers, blockchain – decentralised politics. One victory – the land – food, water, energy – the essentials of life. The sandwich most brutal form of production. Self-analysis – doing things to disturb the system – AirBnB, Uber – disruptive technology.

3. Law of the land versus law of the sea. Natural law (Bastiat) – land Roman civil law. Stand on the land. Private law of the sea – bounty, commerce, law merchant. Commerce at war – Admiralty and commerce. In the astrotheological cycles. Creator, saviour and destroyer. Trimurti – power of thoecratic tyranny – Brahmins – caste system. Brahma creator – prince. Vishnu – artisan; Shiva keeps peasants in their station of life. Period Jesus – preserver. Political/monetary system. Countries get into debt – come under private law – debtors = flood. Inundated by law of the sea because of debt. Mer (water or death) chant (death song of the sea), borrow, buy and consume. Scribes 14/15th century. Tongue – language – langage, langridge (cannon shot). Marcilio Ficio? language is the means of oppression. 800-1100 golden age for Arabs – Alchemy black soil – Egypt. Every word has a root. Interest is from Florence. Bankers were the Jews. Arabs and Jews expelled from Spain and fled to Italy. Cabaret – barking like dogs to dispense with the influence of language. Cabaret Voltaire. Wanton destruction – eg. Fracking. Why? Legal term Jusabutendi – right to abuse. Blacks Law (commercial). Creditor owns everything – we (debtors) are the property of the creditors to abuse as they wish. Symbolism to hide itself. Change something the structure to trigger individual responsibility. Creating ideology to hide behind. Simplifying – doesn't mean dumbing down. Action is a single domain is feasible and has more impact. Rationality is keeping us enslaved. Rationalise the alternative to hierarchy. Focus on distibutive way of thinking and working. How can we change the system as an ongoing deliberation.

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Session 15 on *Tuesday 11th April 2017 - notes

Time: 7pm to 9pm

*New Venue: St John's Church,73 Waterloo Rd, Lambeth, London SE1 8TY (near IMAX tower cinema)

Agenda

1. Round up of news and events (30 minutes)

7:30 Using the system to change the system.
Is speaking truth to power a waste of time? Why did we bother vith the videos?.
Example Rule of Law party. Gillian Swanson to Lord Chancellor.
Holding liers to their pledges...( honesty, incorruptibility; yet child abuse not investigated)
dont't bother?.
Food [is controlled by the system.

7:50 How you change system.
Examples Betamax, VHS de facto standard used. Telephone.

8:00 From last week: Supermarkets - how they operate - effective disengagement – will enough people really ever do such a thing?

8:30 From last week: Deep history – where servitude springs: Astrotheology Cycles (c. 2,100 years) within cycles (c. 25,200 years)

Session 15 11th April 2017 - notes

1. Renegade tweet. Economics and housing. RT – renegade inc. LVT book. William Engdahl – Putin/Betanjahu. Rabbi – never be peace in Palestine because they won't give the land. Positve Money last night. Costanza – economic critique of PM proposition. Treasury rules: production subsumed by finance. Social Credit – James Gibbs Stuart. No East/West. Technology transfer to Russia. China – James Corbett – Rockefeller/Kissinger. Social Credit was a world wide movement – in English speaking world. Buried over 50 years. CH Douglas – engineer early 20th century – managing large civil engineering projects. Interrupted by economic cycles. Sought to understand the financial system. Production of goods and services- wages are a proportion of to cost and so workers will never have enough money to buy them and interest on loans. Real costs: raw materials and labout; plus financial costs – wastage, depreciation and servicing loans. 50% purchasing power available to the public. Came up with solutions. Discounted price- compensated by government money. Disagreement – interest is adding insult to injury. Starting businesses to get people off the dole. Business to produce employment. Commerce – law merchant – private law system. Imposed on society through the church. Line of the priest, line of the king. People chosen for piety but for merchant law. Paper to gain assets – contracts. Legal and lawful two different things – Roman and. TV licence. Homeland – Tom Secker, Piers Redmond. Fake News. CIA influence. Written before the recent fake news – running concurrent with what's happening now. Shadowy CIA character – rooms of people ruining conversations – trolls. Weaponise the information. Lionel Nation – left/right paradigm. Moving ground. We make history and we've moved on -CIA. Tribal warfare. John Le Carre – unpeel to get at truth. Manufacturing consent – manufacturing dissent. What do people want to believe. People with integrity at the top. Overhwlemed by the horror of it all. Fictions reveal truth. RT investigation into Dupont manufacturing Teflon – causing permanent illness. Syria onslaught of news – complete conviction of what's happened. Today on Radio 4. Ex British ambassador to Syria. Feeling of impotence in the face of avalanche of media. Shakespeare written by groups; as in Hebrew scriptures. Demonstrations – role playing. Power goes with attitude rather than reality.

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